How about a Tenebrous Merciful Scorching Ray as a Cantrip? If i have both traits could I make a Magus that has memorized a 0-Level Tenebrous Intensified Shocking Grasp? By the wording it should work.įor example. Im not seeing anything by the wording or under the rules of Metamagic Feats that say this doesn't work. I'm sure it wasn't intended to work this way but it looks like it does if you go strictly off the wording of the traits. If it does I think Magus just lost their 15 minute work day and became true DPR kings lol. In combination, the two can indeed lower a +1 spell level adjustment metamagic to -1, which can indeed make a 1st-level spell a level 0 spell, which, for some classes including the Magus, gives it special properties unique to 0-level spells (like not getting used up when cast). I don't think having multiple metamagic feats would cause the effect to stack multiple times. The feat says "a" metamagic feat, not "each" metamagic feat. In the example of Shocking Grasp, I could see the argument for allowing it to be a 1st level spell. However, that is almost definitely not the intent of the spell to begin with. I actually think that RAW you technically *can* lower a spell below its original level, but also that reducing the effective level to 0 does NOT make it a cantrip. A cantrip seems to be defined as a spell that is level 0 ab initio (just like haste is a 3rd level wizard spell, whether you cast it using a 4th or 2nd level spell slot). It's just like how an extended haste cast using a 4th level spell slot is still a 3rd level spell.
When you apply metamagic feats to this spell that add at least 1. Benefit: Pick one spell when you choose this trait.
You can apply Wayang Spellhunter and magical lineage to cast it using a 2nd level spell slot. One of your parents was a gifted spellcaster who not only used metamagic often, but also developed many magical items and perhaps even a new spell or twoand you have inherited a fragment of this greatness.
Reducing the level of a spell to 0 means you have to use a level 0 or higher spell slot to cast it.
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